In this provocative and eye-opening episode of Growing Older Living Younger, Dr. Gillian Lockitch speaks with Dr. Steve Pasin, author of Taming the Fetal Tyrant and Its Ancestral Delusional Love Stories. They explore how belief systems and emotional imprints formed in utero influence stress, illness, and the aging process. Steve unpacks his theory of fetal megalomania, the cultural conditioning of consciousness, and why truth-based thinking may hold the key to reversing decline. If you’re curious about how your earliest thoughts may still shape your health and longevity, this episode will challenge your assumptions and reframe how you think about aging and the self. Steve Pasin is a dentist-turned-philosopher whose 60-year exploration of mind-body medicine bridges the fields of fetal development, epigenetics, quantum biology, and cultural anthropology. His groundbreaking work dives into how thoughts translate into biochemistry—and how inherited beliefs shape our healthspan. He wrote Taming the Fetal Tyrant, a deeply philosophical and scientific examination of the origins of behavior and aging.
[0:00] – Welcome and Theme
Gillian introduces the podcast’s 2025 theme, “Age is Just a Number,” and previews today’s radical conversation about belief, biology, and aging.
[2:36] – Dr. Steve Pasin’s Journey
From dentistry to deep science, Steve shares how his passion for biology and philosophy evolved into mind-body medicine.
[7:45] – What is the Fetal Tyrant?
Steve introduces the concept of fetal megalomania—our first form of consciousness—and how unexamined cultural beliefs shape health and behavior.
[23:28] – Culture, Epigenetics, and Stress
They explore how cultural teachings change epigenetic expression and impact aging, illness, and emotional well-being.
[23:59] – Truth vs. Opinion
Steve discusses the damaging health effects of opinion-based thinking, biases, and faith, and promotes a foundation in scientifically demonstrable truth.
[30:31] – Practical Wisdom for Healthy Aging
Dr. Pasin highlights the health-promoting effects of social bonding, oxytocin, and rejecting belief systems that generate stress chemistry.
[33:56] – Final Thoughts and Resources
Gillian encourages listeners to challenge inherited beliefs and read Dr. Pasin’s book to explore these ideas in depth.
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